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I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both?

I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both? I do 20% FBA, I don't make any profit on FBA (70% return rate women's clothing's) but I do because this increase sales for FBM, not sure how Amazon do but when I don't do FBA my listing seem invisible, this's not because I don't have buy box. I do, Do anyone knows how exactly works?

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I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both?

I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both? I do 20% FBA, I don't make any profit on FBA (70% return rate women's clothing's) but I do because this increase sales for FBM, not sure how Amazon do but when I don't do FBA my listing seem invisible, this's not because I don't have buy box. I do, Do anyone knows how exactly works?

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FBA listings definately push you to the top of the algorithm. It's always good to have some FBA stock. I primarily do FBA (refurbished/renewed electronics) and everything is good on our end after accoutning for returns, return fraud (we have a claim system that works), FBA shenannigans. Trick is to account for everything on your end and make up for the loss in volume.

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FBA is Favored...FBM in Subject to the "Sprinkler"...Your Sprinkler is On or Off for no clear reason...When I'm "Off" I sell 3 books per week When I'm "On" 8 books per day is Not Rare... It is Real But May be subject to some obscure "Metric" ...AZ likes to "Spread the Wealth?"

PS: Maybe I should start doing a couple Books FBA! ...Based on Your experience...LoL

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Mixing Selling FBA with FBM

You are correct to do so. I won't share the exacts about this because it's a secret. However, I would say , you are going to want to parent the FBA with FBM.

Far as sales - Lots goes into this. You don't typically see those people doing great coming to the forums to cheer. You won't. They don't want people stealing their products or strategies. Also there is the effect like reviews, people review more when they are upset than when they are happy about a product. Just the way it goes, same for sales, people run here when it's bad not when it's good.

FBM cap /Throttle - This is a myth. The reason people are being "capped" probably has something to do with other parts of their FBM equation. If you and 10 other sellers are selling "the same book" at around the same price for around the same ad cost, it only makes sense you'd see some days of good sales and some days not. That's because sometimes your ads will show to serious buyers and sometimes they'll show to people looking for a different book. However, both will click and the results are what they are. This also means all these sellers will group around the same "rank" and the organic boost from paid ads will cancel out unless you are dropping tons to sell more with paid ads and at that point you'll start losing money. However if you sold that book for much lower and spent more on ads you'd eventually eat a lot of the sales. Even FBA you would eat. FBA is favored but the bids matter and the price matters so you can overcome them it's just hard.

Take a 1 pound of less item , FBA fulfillment is like 5 bucks , shipping FBM is like 6-7 bucks. For one item FBA is cheaper and faster. But if you do the shipping template right after say 5 items, you should be able to out price FBA and become the better deal for bulk buyers. Now take a 40 pound item, FBA fulfillment can be crazy like 60-80 dollars while FBM you can send it Fedex One Rate 2 Day for 26.50. Your price is much lower FBM , shipping speed the same and you can spend a little more per click.

We sell a few items that are outdoors furniture for example. FBA prices for this are very high. Fulfillment cost and ads they barely make anything. I sell then 10% cheaper and have a 30% margin after shipping. Even companies in China that send the cheap stuff to FBA, because of the fulfillment cost they can't dodge and the fact I get the same cost and sometimes even cheaper on those products with the same cost or lower to land a container (we buy containers) , we actually beat them and we sell a higher quality product. FBM allows us to pull this off.

Some items just have no profit margin. Like a 50 x 30 x 12 items for example or Something large like that. FBA or FBM the cost is so much to fulfill that it really doesn't matter. I stay way from these products and you should too.

However, you say a 70% return rate on women's clothing so you'll need to deal with returns FBM , but this might be okay because FBA returns probably go poorly on things like clothing.

I hope this makes sense.

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Check your listings many slow items do not show up when you type search and usually these items actually sell for more on other sites especially listings with no buy box those listings will be turds and likely never sell!

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I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both?

I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both? I do 20% FBA, I don't make any profit on FBA (70% return rate women's clothing's) but I do because this increase sales for FBM, not sure how Amazon do but when I don't do FBA my listing seem invisible, this's not because I don't have buy box. I do, Do anyone knows how exactly works?

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I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both?

I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both? I do 20% FBA, I don't make any profit on FBA (70% return rate women's clothing's) but I do because this increase sales for FBM, not sure how Amazon do but when I don't do FBA my listing seem invisible, this's not because I don't have buy box. I do, Do anyone knows how exactly works?

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I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both?

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I see people posting no sales or slow often, are these are FBA or FBM or both? I do 20% FBA, I don't make any profit on FBA (70% return rate women's clothing's) but I do because this increase sales for FBM, not sure how Amazon do but when I don't do FBA my listing seem invisible, this's not because I don't have buy box. I do, Do anyone knows how exactly works?

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FBA listings definately push you to the top of the algorithm. It's always good to have some FBA stock. I primarily do FBA (refurbished/renewed electronics) and everything is good on our end after accoutning for returns, return fraud (we have a claim system that works), FBA shenannigans. Trick is to account for everything on your end and make up for the loss in volume.

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FBA is Favored...FBM in Subject to the "Sprinkler"...Your Sprinkler is On or Off for no clear reason...When I'm "Off" I sell 3 books per week When I'm "On" 8 books per day is Not Rare... It is Real But May be subject to some obscure "Metric" ...AZ likes to "Spread the Wealth?"

PS: Maybe I should start doing a couple Books FBA! ...Based on Your experience...LoL

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Mixing Selling FBA with FBM

You are correct to do so. I won't share the exacts about this because it's a secret. However, I would say , you are going to want to parent the FBA with FBM.

Far as sales - Lots goes into this. You don't typically see those people doing great coming to the forums to cheer. You won't. They don't want people stealing their products or strategies. Also there is the effect like reviews, people review more when they are upset than when they are happy about a product. Just the way it goes, same for sales, people run here when it's bad not when it's good.

FBM cap /Throttle - This is a myth. The reason people are being "capped" probably has something to do with other parts of their FBM equation. If you and 10 other sellers are selling "the same book" at around the same price for around the same ad cost, it only makes sense you'd see some days of good sales and some days not. That's because sometimes your ads will show to serious buyers and sometimes they'll show to people looking for a different book. However, both will click and the results are what they are. This also means all these sellers will group around the same "rank" and the organic boost from paid ads will cancel out unless you are dropping tons to sell more with paid ads and at that point you'll start losing money. However if you sold that book for much lower and spent more on ads you'd eventually eat a lot of the sales. Even FBA you would eat. FBA is favored but the bids matter and the price matters so you can overcome them it's just hard.

Take a 1 pound of less item , FBA fulfillment is like 5 bucks , shipping FBM is like 6-7 bucks. For one item FBA is cheaper and faster. But if you do the shipping template right after say 5 items, you should be able to out price FBA and become the better deal for bulk buyers. Now take a 40 pound item, FBA fulfillment can be crazy like 60-80 dollars while FBM you can send it Fedex One Rate 2 Day for 26.50. Your price is much lower FBM , shipping speed the same and you can spend a little more per click.

We sell a few items that are outdoors furniture for example. FBA prices for this are very high. Fulfillment cost and ads they barely make anything. I sell then 10% cheaper and have a 30% margin after shipping. Even companies in China that send the cheap stuff to FBA, because of the fulfillment cost they can't dodge and the fact I get the same cost and sometimes even cheaper on those products with the same cost or lower to land a container (we buy containers) , we actually beat them and we sell a higher quality product. FBM allows us to pull this off.

Some items just have no profit margin. Like a 50 x 30 x 12 items for example or Something large like that. FBA or FBM the cost is so much to fulfill that it really doesn't matter. I stay way from these products and you should too.

However, you say a 70% return rate on women's clothing so you'll need to deal with returns FBM , but this might be okay because FBA returns probably go poorly on things like clothing.

I hope this makes sense.

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Check your listings many slow items do not show up when you type search and usually these items actually sell for more on other sites especially listings with no buy box those listings will be turds and likely never sell!

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FBA listings definately push you to the top of the algorithm. It's always good to have some FBA stock. I primarily do FBA (refurbished/renewed electronics) and everything is good on our end after accoutning for returns, return fraud (we have a claim system that works), FBA shenannigans. Trick is to account for everything on your end and make up for the loss in volume.

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Seller_gOEI26HVe3ja4

FBA listings definately push you to the top of the algorithm. It's always good to have some FBA stock. I primarily do FBA (refurbished/renewed electronics) and everything is good on our end after accoutning for returns, return fraud (we have a claim system that works), FBA shenannigans. Trick is to account for everything on your end and make up for the loss in volume.

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Seller_awYU0oH8skccg

FBA is Favored...FBM in Subject to the "Sprinkler"...Your Sprinkler is On or Off for no clear reason...When I'm "Off" I sell 3 books per week When I'm "On" 8 books per day is Not Rare... It is Real But May be subject to some obscure "Metric" ...AZ likes to "Spread the Wealth?"

PS: Maybe I should start doing a couple Books FBA! ...Based on Your experience...LoL

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Seller_awYU0oH8skccg

FBA is Favored...FBM in Subject to the "Sprinkler"...Your Sprinkler is On or Off for no clear reason...When I'm "Off" I sell 3 books per week When I'm "On" 8 books per day is Not Rare... It is Real But May be subject to some obscure "Metric" ...AZ likes to "Spread the Wealth?"

PS: Maybe I should start doing a couple Books FBA! ...Based on Your experience...LoL

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Seller_E8mL3eW2WFX39

Mixing Selling FBA with FBM

You are correct to do so. I won't share the exacts about this because it's a secret. However, I would say , you are going to want to parent the FBA with FBM.

Far as sales - Lots goes into this. You don't typically see those people doing great coming to the forums to cheer. You won't. They don't want people stealing their products or strategies. Also there is the effect like reviews, people review more when they are upset than when they are happy about a product. Just the way it goes, same for sales, people run here when it's bad not when it's good.

FBM cap /Throttle - This is a myth. The reason people are being "capped" probably has something to do with other parts of their FBM equation. If you and 10 other sellers are selling "the same book" at around the same price for around the same ad cost, it only makes sense you'd see some days of good sales and some days not. That's because sometimes your ads will show to serious buyers and sometimes they'll show to people looking for a different book. However, both will click and the results are what they are. This also means all these sellers will group around the same "rank" and the organic boost from paid ads will cancel out unless you are dropping tons to sell more with paid ads and at that point you'll start losing money. However if you sold that book for much lower and spent more on ads you'd eventually eat a lot of the sales. Even FBA you would eat. FBA is favored but the bids matter and the price matters so you can overcome them it's just hard.

Take a 1 pound of less item , FBA fulfillment is like 5 bucks , shipping FBM is like 6-7 bucks. For one item FBA is cheaper and faster. But if you do the shipping template right after say 5 items, you should be able to out price FBA and become the better deal for bulk buyers. Now take a 40 pound item, FBA fulfillment can be crazy like 60-80 dollars while FBM you can send it Fedex One Rate 2 Day for 26.50. Your price is much lower FBM , shipping speed the same and you can spend a little more per click.

We sell a few items that are outdoors furniture for example. FBA prices for this are very high. Fulfillment cost and ads they barely make anything. I sell then 10% cheaper and have a 30% margin after shipping. Even companies in China that send the cheap stuff to FBA, because of the fulfillment cost they can't dodge and the fact I get the same cost and sometimes even cheaper on those products with the same cost or lower to land a container (we buy containers) , we actually beat them and we sell a higher quality product. FBM allows us to pull this off.

Some items just have no profit margin. Like a 50 x 30 x 12 items for example or Something large like that. FBA or FBM the cost is so much to fulfill that it really doesn't matter. I stay way from these products and you should too.

However, you say a 70% return rate on women's clothing so you'll need to deal with returns FBM , but this might be okay because FBA returns probably go poorly on things like clothing.

I hope this makes sense.

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Seller_E8mL3eW2WFX39

Mixing Selling FBA with FBM

You are correct to do so. I won't share the exacts about this because it's a secret. However, I would say , you are going to want to parent the FBA with FBM.

Far as sales - Lots goes into this. You don't typically see those people doing great coming to the forums to cheer. You won't. They don't want people stealing their products or strategies. Also there is the effect like reviews, people review more when they are upset than when they are happy about a product. Just the way it goes, same for sales, people run here when it's bad not when it's good.

FBM cap /Throttle - This is a myth. The reason people are being "capped" probably has something to do with other parts of their FBM equation. If you and 10 other sellers are selling "the same book" at around the same price for around the same ad cost, it only makes sense you'd see some days of good sales and some days not. That's because sometimes your ads will show to serious buyers and sometimes they'll show to people looking for a different book. However, both will click and the results are what they are. This also means all these sellers will group around the same "rank" and the organic boost from paid ads will cancel out unless you are dropping tons to sell more with paid ads and at that point you'll start losing money. However if you sold that book for much lower and spent more on ads you'd eventually eat a lot of the sales. Even FBA you would eat. FBA is favored but the bids matter and the price matters so you can overcome them it's just hard.

Take a 1 pound of less item , FBA fulfillment is like 5 bucks , shipping FBM is like 6-7 bucks. For one item FBA is cheaper and faster. But if you do the shipping template right after say 5 items, you should be able to out price FBA and become the better deal for bulk buyers. Now take a 40 pound item, FBA fulfillment can be crazy like 60-80 dollars while FBM you can send it Fedex One Rate 2 Day for 26.50. Your price is much lower FBM , shipping speed the same and you can spend a little more per click.

We sell a few items that are outdoors furniture for example. FBA prices for this are very high. Fulfillment cost and ads they barely make anything. I sell then 10% cheaper and have a 30% margin after shipping. Even companies in China that send the cheap stuff to FBA, because of the fulfillment cost they can't dodge and the fact I get the same cost and sometimes even cheaper on those products with the same cost or lower to land a container (we buy containers) , we actually beat them and we sell a higher quality product. FBM allows us to pull this off.

Some items just have no profit margin. Like a 50 x 30 x 12 items for example or Something large like that. FBA or FBM the cost is so much to fulfill that it really doesn't matter. I stay way from these products and you should too.

However, you say a 70% return rate on women's clothing so you'll need to deal with returns FBM , but this might be okay because FBA returns probably go poorly on things like clothing.

I hope this makes sense.

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Seller_Ha6JyVvDK6Ybs

Check your listings many slow items do not show up when you type search and usually these items actually sell for more on other sites especially listings with no buy box those listings will be turds and likely never sell!

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Seller_Ha6JyVvDK6Ybs

Check your listings many slow items do not show up when you type search and usually these items actually sell for more on other sites especially listings with no buy box those listings will be turds and likely never sell!

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